Sunday, August 24, 2008

Biden's Catholicism: a roundup -- UPDATED

As you might expect, there's a lot of attention now being focused on Joe Biden's religion.

You can get a good sampling of ideas below:

David Gibson has his thoughts over at his Pontifications blog. He points out the interesting fact that his pro-choice rating from NARAL is so low, they chose not to endorse him.

Meanwhile, the Reuters political blog says it looks like Biden could help woo the increasingly crucial Catholic swing vote.

Michael Paulson has some thoughts of his own over Articles of Faith, the Boston Globe religion blog.

Steve Waldman has weighed in over at Huffington Post.

Get Religion, as always, takes a fairly even-handed look at the subject of Biden and religion, and looks at it through the lens of the media.

An interesting perspective is laid out at Catholic Culture, noting that neither party is covering itself in glory on the issue of Roe v. Wade.

And at America's blog, In All Things, Michael Sean Winters adds this:
Unlike some pro-choice Catholics who have gotten into trouble with their bishops, Biden does not even have a bishop right now. Wilmington’s new bishop, W. Francis Malooly, will be installed September 8th. Malooly, a native of Baltimore, rose in the ranks under the tutelage of two moderate bishops, Archbishop William Borders and Cardinal William Keeler, neither of whom joined their more conservative confreres in the effort to deny communion to pro-choice politicians. Malooly has never run his own show, as he is about to do in Wilmington, but it is doubtful he will provoke a confrontation with Biden given his mentors, both of whom are living and able to offer counsel.

{snip}

It is doubtful Biden was chosen because of his Catholicism. And it is also doubtful that his Catholicism lends his surrogacy greater weight. But, insofar as his Catholicism has endowed him with a belief in the necessity of solidarity, compassion, and human dignity in our politics, Biden embodies a more nuanced, complicated view of how religion and politics can mix within one candidate. And recognizing such complicatedness is a good thing for both Church and State.
That's a start. I'll add more as I come across them ...

UPDATE: The AP has just posted an item which quotes Denver's Archbishop Chaput, who told the AP that Biden should refrain from receiving communion:
Chaput, one of the nation's most outspoken bishops on Catholic political responsibility, said Catholics who disagree with the church on "serious, sanctity of life issues" separate themselves from communion with the church and should not present themselves for the Eucharist.

Biden "has admirable qualities to his public service," Chaput said in his statement. "But his record of support for so-called abortion 'rights,' while mixed at times, is seriously wrong. I certainly presume his good will and integrity — and I presume that his integrity will lead him to refrain from presenting himself for Communion, if he supports a false 'right' to abortion."

Chaput added that he looks forward to speaking with Biden privately.

Other Catholics were even more forceful in their criticism. The Catholic advocacy group Fidelis called the choice of Biden a "slap in the face" to Catholic voters and predicted the Communion question will hover over Biden at each campaign stop.

George Weigel, a Pope John Paul II biographer and senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, said: "I don't think it's a happy day for Catholics when a man who is literally dead wrong on what the Catholic leadership of the United States has said for over three decades is the most important issue of social justice in our country is named to a national ticket and attempts to present himself as an intellectually serious and coherent Catholic."
UPDATE II: I see there's also a blog that's been set up called Catholics Against Joe Biden. And Deacon Keith Fournier has declared that Biden's selection means that "the battle for life is engaged."

10 comments:

John Hetman said...

Dear Deacon:

You have a very cute and attractive progressive Catholic site, but not a great deal of substance. Rather like a pleasant modern suburban Catholic church that just wants folks to like it there with maybe a snide remark thrown out at nasty old conservative troglodytes.

However, here's a bit of information that might help you regarding Senator Biden's positions on abortion.

Biden scores 0% by the NRLC on abortion issues
OnTheIssues.org interprets the 2006 NRLC scores as follows:

0% - 15%: pro-choice stance (approx. 174 members)
16%- 84%: mixed record on abortion (approx. 101 members)
85%-100%: pro-life stance (approx. 190 members)
About the NRLC (from their website, www.nrlc.org):
The ultimate goal of the National Right to Life Committee is to restore legal protection to innocent human life. The primary interest of the National Right to Life Committee and its members has been the abortion controversy; however, it is also concerned with related matters of medical ethics which relate to the right to life issues of euthanasia and infanticide. The Committee does not have a position on issues such as contraception, sex education, capital punishment, and national defense. The National Right to Life Committee was founded in 1973 in response to the Roe vs. Wade Supreme Court decision, legalizing the practice of human abortion in all 50 states, throughout the entire nine months of pregnancy.

The NRLC has been instrumental in achieving a number of legislative reforms at the national level, including a ban on non-therapeutic experimentation of unborn and newborn babies, a federal conscience clause guaranteeing medical personnel the right to refuse to participate in abortion procedures, and various amendments to appropriations bills which prohibit (or limit) the use of federal funds to subsidize or promote abortions in the United States and overseas.

In addition to maintaining a lobbying presence at the federal level, NRLC serves as a clearinghouse of information for its state affiliates and local chapters, its individual members, the press, and the public.

Source: NRLC website 06n-NRLC on Dec 31, 2006 abortion:

Jeff Miller said...

The next Republican that tells me I'm not religious, I'm going to shove my rosary beads down their throat.

Sen Joe Biden 2005

Andrew said...

Dear Deacon,

Please ignore the misplaced comments from the rep of the NRLC.
You blog is a great read and informative, too boot.

-Andrew

johnny b said...

Archbishop Chaput is right on.

I pray that Biden's new bishop has the courage to stand for life and to call murder what it is.

By the way, at what point did a slave become a human? Why is this such a hard thing to figure out.

Basic biology 101: Life begins at conception.

If WE as Roman Catholics can't stand UP for LIFE than we are going down fast.

Christopher said...

You have a very cute and attractive progressive Catholic site, but not a great deal of substance.

Um, exactly how long have you been reading the Deacon's blog before this rush to judgement?

Scott said...

If we wait around for the perfect politician, we'll still be waiting at the Last Judgment.

sthuntz1 said...

Here's a question that needs discussion. I've asked our diocesan prolife personnel but they just keep telling me they'll get back.

Let's say Roe v. Wade is overturned and the equal protection clause is extended to the moment of conception. What do the bishops then hope to see? Legislation imposing first degree, premeditated murder for abortion? If not, why not given their position? Do they forsee doctors as mandated reporters of women who they suspect to be seeking an abortion? Would the unborn child be placed into protective custody just as any post-birth child would be? If not, why not, given the bishops position. Can anyone tell me what the legislation post Roe v. Wade look like? Everyone is so quick to point fingers and condemn legislators...please tell me what you see in this situation!

Deacon Greg Kandra said...

Stunhuntz1:

On a hunch, I suspect the issue will go to the states. Each state will decide whether or not to permit abortions, and the battle will be engaged on a state-by-state basis, with every local legislature. You can pretty much predict which places will continue to have legal access to abortion.

But that's just my guess. Someone else probably knows more about how it will work.

Dcn. G.

sthuntz1 said...

Deacon, thanks for the response, I realize that if R v. W is overturned the decisions will revert to the states, but I still want to know what the bishops envision? Let's say my sister-in-law announces with some reservation she's pregnant. Two weeks later she's no longer pregnant and family inquiries are met with "none of your business." IF we truly believe that 2 month old unborn has the same status and rights as a 2 month old post-birth child, wouldn't an investigation then be called for, prosecution, punishment? Again, if not, why not, given our beliefs about life and the equal standing in-utero or post-utero???? What would YOU legislate if you were in the State Assembly?

Castellanus said...

sthuntz1,

First off I think this is too often a red herring argument made by the pro-abortion crowd to end debate on the issue. (I'm not suggesting you aren't being sincere, just that many who do make this argument aren't.) Do you ask the Bishops for their opinion on drafting legislation for theft? If not, why not? The Bishops role will be on guidance on drafting laws. For the lawmakers there are too many unknown variables at this point to be able to say what would happen. Ideally you help women to not be in the position of an unplanned pregnancy in the first place. I expect the Bishops would urge compassion on behalf of the mother as legislation was drafted. I also expect there would be greater punishment for the provider of the abortion rather than the mother.

This is a question that one cannot fully answer in a comment box but I have written more on my blog about it http://tuitiofidei.blogspot.com/2008/08/as-someone-who-has-spent-several-years.html
Making abortion illegal is a necessary first step. First it takes billions of abortion industry dollars off the table and instead of them being used for the murder of children allows it to be spent on helping women involved in a crisis pregnancy. For many women now that it is illegal and that option is closed they will have to consider more positive alternatives.